yo, it has been way to long. Well, racing is over for me. At least till I'm a masters' racer, 4 yrs to go. Thanks to Matt, Grandstay,and my teammates. I will miss it. I'll still be at some cross races and road races next summer. I just heard there are not hand ups in cross this year. WTF is that about? Anyway, I'll see ya on the road.